A podcast about the dirt on land use, development and inside politics of Arizona.


People+Politics+Development+Drama = Dirt to Development

Dirt to Development is a one-of-a-kind podcast that provides a behind-the-scenes look at some of the biggest developments in Arizona – and the people, politics, developers, brokers, architects and neighbors that make it all happen. You’ll hear insane stories and insights from industry experts, city staff and intriguing community personalities. And yes, there will be laughter.

November 9, 2022

What does Elvis at Las Vegas, The Beatles on the Ed Sullivan Show and the Dirt to Development Podcast at the AZ American Planning Association have in common? History making, wild fans and great performances. Listen as we regale audiences at the APA conference with a little back to the future planning knowledge.

October 26, 2022

When Greg Vogel started with Coldwell Banker in the early 80’s, little did he know about the value of land databases.  In the 40 years since, he created Land Advisors Organization, one of the premier land brokerage firms and leaders in PropTech. Listen as Greg shares how he went from Fraternity Brother to Land Guru

September 28, 2022

Development has inherent risks which is why it is critical to be responsive to new trends and land use changes. Listen to our friends at Thompson Thrift talk about how they make commercial development an experience and destination to adapt to land use trends.

August 8, 2022

In early 2022, Arizona municipalities and cities were shocked to learn about a proposed bill in the Arizona State Legislature that would drastically handcuff municipal zoning authority in order to bring more affordable housing to market. We call it the Zoning Attorney Job Killer legislation. Thankfully, it didn’t advance, but the bill started a conversation

June 29, 2022

If you can’t play an attorney on TV, at least you can be a great one in real life. In this episode we discuss how land use litigation can affect the best deals and how important it is to assemble the world’s best when involving high stakes transactions.