A podcast about the dirt on land use, development and inside politics of Arizona.


People+Politics+Development+Drama = Dirt to Development

Dirt to Development is a one-of-a-kind podcast that provides a behind-the-scenes look at some of the biggest developments in Arizona – and the people, politics, developers, brokers, architects and neighbors that make it all happen. You’ll hear insane stories and insights from industry experts, city staff and intriguing community personalities. And yes, there will be laughter.

January 5, 2022

Tribal politics is so 2020, yet we’ve been dealing with politics and land use since the Xerox machine. Zoning is at the intersection of politics and land use, and as a result, predictability is thrown out the window and uncertainty remains supreme. Listen as we discuss how politics and land use work together (and against each other)

December 13, 2021

Watching the Fiesta Bowl on TV in January 1974 changed Nate Nathan’s life. Seeing the sunshine and tanned coeds in Arizona while he shivered in Chicago brought him west and he never looked back. More than 40 years later, nobody is more involved in land deals, transactions and developments across Arizona than the legend himself

October 13, 2021

How can a project be so successful that it spurs massive area redevelopment and investment and yet creates a huge neighborhood outcry at the same time? In this episode we dissect The Yard at 7th Street, a case study on land use entitlements that includes variances, use permits, abandonments, signage, zoning interpretations and more. You’ll

October 13, 2021

Land use and zoning are at the forefront of Arizona’s growth. How did it become so important and why is it a rallying cry for NIMBYs? Listen in as we chat with Jim Stockwell of Clyde Capital about the nuts and bolts of zoning and land use development in Arizona.

October 13, 2021

We are your hosts Adam Baugh and Jason Morris, here to give you the inside scoop on some of the Valley’s best developments and some wild stories on how they came to be. But first, we want to share our story so you can get to know a little bit more about who we are