A podcast about the dirt on land use, development and inside politics of Arizona.


People+Politics+Development+Drama = Dirt to Development

Dirt to Development is a one-of-a-kind podcast that provides a behind-the-scenes look at some of the biggest developments in Arizona – and the people, politics, developers, brokers, architects and neighbors that make it all happen. You’ll hear insane stories and insights from industry experts, city staff and intriguing community personalities. And yes, there will be laughter.

February 9, 2022

The city planning department is more than just an episode of “Parks and Recreation.” (But we sure would love to see Leslie Knope at the Planning Commission.) As the Director of the fifth largest city in America, running the City of Phoenix Planning and Development Department is a daily sprint. Not far away, Scottsdale’s planning

January 28, 2022

If the General Plan were viewed as an atlas map, and a zoning map like a street map, then zoning attorneys would be Google Maps. In this episode we provide critical guidance on how to navigate General Plan amendments, key filing deadlines, and potholes to avoid during that process.

January 19, 2022

Serving on municipal boards and commissions is a thankless job. Nobody pays you, it’s inconvenient and almost every decision makes another person upset. So why do it? We’ve got some sage advice from two of our favorite community resident volunteers. Jimmy Lindblom and Jessica Sarkissian discuss the pros and cons of serving on zoning boards and

January 5, 2022

Tribal politics is so 2020, yet we’ve been dealing with politics and land use since the Xerox machine. Zoning is at the intersection of politics and land use, and as a result, predictability is thrown out the window and uncertainty remains supreme. Listen as we discuss how politics and land use work together (and against each other)

December 13, 2021

Watching the Fiesta Bowl on TV in January 1974 changed Nate Nathan’s life. Seeing the sunshine and tanned coeds in Arizona while he shivered in Chicago brought him west and he never looked back. More than 40 years later, nobody is more involved in land deals, transactions and developments across Arizona than the legend himself